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Man of mystery helps Derwenthorpe protest

12:10pm Tuesday 5th December 2006

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A massive housing scheme on York's outskirts could be jeopardized if campaigners succeed in getting the site registered as a village green. Mike Laycock reveals how a mystery stranger prompted their new bid to block Derwenthorpe.

IT all began two months ago, when a man appeared in Tom Hughes' garden and asked: "Are you the man from MARA?"

Tom, who is a member of Meadlands Area Residents' Association as well as a leading campaigner against the Joseph Rowntree Foundation's scheme for a 540-home model village, said today: "I thought at first he was asking if I was from Mars!"

He said the stranger then handed him a document, said it might prove useful in his campaign against the proposals for Derwenthorpe, and then disappeared.

"He just drove off," he said. "I have no idea who he was. I had never seen him before. He's not from round here."

When Tom sat down to read the document, he quickly realized why it was of potentially huge importance to him and other campaigners who have fought a six-year battle to stop the development on open land near their homes.

It eventually led to residents lodging a bid, reported in The Press yesterday, to register the site as a village green.

If the bid succeeds, the development could be blocked, even if a planning inspector who conducted a public inquiry into the project earlier this year recommends approval.

The document, written by Hammonds solicitors, warned landowners and developers about the implications of the 2006 Commons Act.

It said the legislation posed a "serious threat" to owners of land being used for recreational purposes, because it would make it easier for members of public to apply for land to be registered as a village or town green and make it harder for landowners to defeat an application.

It warned: "Registration recognises that the wider public hold rights over it. This means that the land cannot be used in any way that would prevent the exercise by the public of lawful sports and pastimes.

"In effect, registration will tie the hands of landowners and may turn land into an asset of negative value. For example, land currently surplus to the requirements of the landowner but earmarked for future expansion proposals may be being used by the public for recreational activities, which could be as basic as dog walking.

"If the land is the subject of a successful claim to register it as a town or village green, then it may be effectively sterilised."

Mr Hughes said he and a group of other residents got together to form a new group, the Friends of Osbaldwick Meadows, and set about exploring the implications of the document. He said they received assistance from the Open Spaces Society and from Ryedale MP John Greenway before eventually lodging their application for village green status last week.

He said the Friends had been told the application would have to be advertised, and if anyone wished to object, they would have 40 days to do so. He believed such objections could precipitate another public inquiry.


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no2campus2, says...
12:53pm Tue 5 Dec 06

I hwonder if this rule could be applied to the Heslington east planning application and stop the University land grabbing. I fear it is to late

Old Amos, says...
1:20pm Tue 5 Dec 06

NIMBYism at its best. I remember when Meadlands was green fields, my friends and I used to watch the skylarks and lapwings. Why should selfish people like this cost the taxpayer thousands of pounds and deny others the right to a roof over their heads.
The newts failed, so if this fails, what else will they try?

Bernard of Osbaldwick, says...
1:27pm Tue 5 Dec 06

At least this will have no impact on York properties being amongst the most unaffordable in the country.

I approve of the Derwenthorpe scheme and hope that all of the Osbaldwick residents who are worried about the impact of the extra traffic will start by ensuring that they aren't part of the problem by not having two or three cars per household.

Please feel free to mock this response, but me and my family are VERY close to the site and so are in a position to make a comment and also I don't recall there being a similar protest when the homes for sale where built on Murton Way.

Remember, ALL homes are built on what was once a greenfield site.

Claire, says...
1:45pm Tue 5 Dec 06

I am a 30yr old single York woman still living at home with my parents due to the high cost of housing in York. I have been on the Council Housing List for 2yrs and am likey to be there for 2 more yrs to come due to high demand. I am all for the building of more affordable homes if it means that tax paying workers like me can have a home of their own! We have to remember that not everyone that ends up living in these properties are benefits claimants like some people think and are lead to believe. Some of us work hard for a living and deserve our own home.

Claire - York

Jimbob, says...
1:54pm Tue 5 Dec 06

I agree with Claire, I'm almost 30, work full time in quite a good job and still live with my parents. I would love to own my own home but in the current climate I can't see that happening. Any new housing in York can only be a good thing as far as I'm concerned. There are plenty of places round Osbaldwick to walk your dog, these people truely are NIMBY's.

Marvin, says...
2:04pm Tue 5 Dec 06

Good luck, get this monstrous development thrown out once and for all. I live miles from it, it won't affect me, but I wish them well in their attempts to stop this desecration of yet another green area. The developers won't be happy until every square foot of this city has disappeared under concrete and the roads are so congested that travel becomes impossible.

O-man, says...
2:41pm Tue 5 Dec 06

While there are people waiting for new housing, it does not necessarily follow that these houses will have to be build on what was not so long ago part of York's green-belt! Brownfield development as promised in the Lib Dem Manifesto should be used to resolve the lack of affordable housing, not concreting over much needed green spaces around York! -- Derwentthorpe is the manifestation of a half-backed housing policy.

Mal, says...
10:17pm Tue 5 Dec 06

It's ironic that this story appears directly above the story about how 'Houses in part of North Yorkshire are among the most unattainable in Britain'! There's a need for more housing and Derwenthorpe is part of the solution.

Tommy, says...
2:42am Wed 6 Dec 06

Do not worry; I have a solution that will satisfy the need for affordable housing and the need to preserve the meadow!! The answers…….Tents!!! Or has somebody already tried that!!

Marvin, says...
8:36am Wed 6 Dec 06

No Mal, there's a need for less people not more housing. Nice idea Tommy, although I'd stop short of tents and throw them cardboard boxes.

derwent rambler, says...
2:13pm Wed 6 Dec 06

Like someone commented the other day, when we were kids (and I'm 30 now) the newly named Derwenthorpe area were well known as the Bullfields and everyone had free access as long as you could outrun the cattle! York City Council just wants 540 new homes buillding so that they will get over £540,000 every year in COUNCIL TAX so of course the council will try their very hardest to push the scheme through.

CBS, says...
11:00am Thu 7 Dec 06

To Tommy and Marvin. Your ignorance is disgusting. I am blind and need a home I can cope with. Houses have to be built and at this development they will incorporate special features to help everyone including the elderly, physically disabled, sensory impaired and families. The whole site has been well thought out to give pedestrians and cyclists priority. There will remain plenty of green space so that vulnerable people like me are able to go for a walk without feeling threatened. I do not drive and wonder how many cars per household you NIMBYs have? As for greenbelt land, what about the green belt of large gardens in the area. Do you owners who resent others right to a home feel guilty about the amount of space you take up? Ah but they say ignorance is bliss!

Chris Nelson, says...
3:45pm Thu 7 Dec 06

So here's the situation: York folk are complaining that the majority of housing is too expensive for residents, or are not suitable as too many luxury apartments are being built.
So the council wants to build an affordable housing estate. People don't like that... Sounds to me like the 'not in my back yard' syndrome. I'm sure if local residents were forced to live in a tent they'd want to see affordable housing.

Marvin, says...
2:48pm Fri 8 Dec 06

The development is 10 miles from where I live so hardly a 'NIMBY'! I just don't want to see York's final areas of wildlife ploughed up for more housing. CBS says he/she is blind and I have no problem with catering for people with disability, but there are other places to build specialist accommodation. This affordable housing is a joke - I had to buy my house from scratch so why not others?

Bob of Osbaldwick, says...
2:02pm Mon 11 Dec 06

I agree with Bernard it seems that a lot of people in the area has a NIMBY attitude. I live in the Area and apart from the burnt out cars, Gypsy horses and and dog walkers (and accompanying dog muck) no-one else seems to use the fields. Housing is reaching a critical level, young people simply cannot afford to get on the housing ladder. As for the 'I had to buy my house from scratch' attitude, just because you've gained from the huge rise in house prices. That attitude frankly stinks. Better the JRF building on the site than building companies as they will cram as many houses on as possible and not care a toss for the increase in traffic. As Bernard says take a look in peoples drives in Osbaldwick, there's an awful lot of people with two cars. Are these the same people saying that the housing scheme will ruin the environmnet? Better look closer to home my friends.

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