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11:00am Thursday 27th September 2007
Comments (38)TODAY The Press launches its Fund Our Force Campaign as MPs from across the political divide come together to issue a single unified message to the Government.
As revealed exclusively by this paper, proposals by the Home Office could see £10 million slashed off North Yorkshire's police budget - the equivalent of 300 officers.
We are calling on Home Secretary Jacqui Smith to ensure police retain adequate funding.
Now Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs across the county have set aside their political differences to express their concerns. York MP Hugh Bayley said: "I would fight cuts to policing in North Yorkshire tooth and nail."
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akuma, York says...
11:13am Thu 27 Sep 07
Nomadic wrote:I don't think it works like that, all "profits" if indeed that is the correct word for "fine" goes to a central pot and is distrubted through the force as required.
Why don't NYPD use some of the massive profits they've amassed?
If you refer to the recent reported stockpile of unused budget, I believe that was allocated elsewhere the moment after it was discovered.
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
11:32am Thu 27 Sep 07
We've not turned into Yanks just yet!
TJH, York says...
11:38am Thu 27 Sep 07
Nomadic wrote:If Nomadic is referring to fines from the various campaigns against law-breaking motorists, that money goes straight to central Government, the same as fines imposed at Court - it doesn't go to NYP. If he's referring to the reserves, that money is already allocated for various major projects. If anybody bothered to read the leaflets that come out with the council tax bills, for years before Della Cannings, NYP was trumpeted as having the lowest police precept of all the forces in the region. What that actually meant was years and years of under investment in things such as buildings, IT systems and equipment. Della may not have been everybody's cup of tea but she started the process of dragging NYP into the 21st Century. For example, the surrounding forces have some very impressive custody facilities. At peak periods like weekends, does Nomadic want NYP's police officers out on the street or would he prefer them to continue spending their time ferrying prisoners around the county because there isn't enough cell space in places like York?
Why don't NYPD use some of the massive profits they've amassed?
speedy--b, York says...
11:38am Thu 27 Sep 07
Back this campaign.
Envelopes are brown, @ CYC says...
11:40am Thu 27 Sep 07
akuma, York says...
11:41am Thu 27 Sep 07
TJH wrote:Isn't that what I just said, but a bit more long winded?
Nomadic wrote: Why don't NYPD use some of the massive profits they've amassed?If Nomadic is referring to fines from the various campaigns against law-breaking motorists, that money goes straight to central Government, the same as fines imposed at Court - it doesn't go to NYP. If he's referring to the reserves, that money is already allocated for various major projects. If anybody bothered to read the leaflets that come out with the council tax bills, for years before Della Cannings, NYP was trumpeted as having the lowest police precept of all the forces in the region. What that actually meant was years and years of under investment in things such as buildings, IT systems and equipment. Della may not have been everybody's cup of tea but she started the process of dragging NYP into the 21st Century. For example, the surrounding forces have some very impressive custody facilities. At peak periods like weekends, does Nomadic want NYP's police officers out on the street or would he prefer them to continue spending their time ferrying prisoners around the county because there isn't enough cell space in places like York?
akuma, York says...
11:44am Thu 27 Sep 07
I said they would cover her statement up and then bury her for it, well it's started!
speedy--b, York says...
11:47am Thu 27 Sep 07
Back this campaign.
speedy--b, York says...
11:53am Thu 27 Sep 07
Envelopes are brown, @ CYC says...
12:11pm Thu 27 Sep 07
SACK Janet Soo-Chung
peter k, york says...
12:11pm Thu 27 Sep 07
IMO The police should be out on the streets working, not driving around in sports cars looking to make some money from a fixed penaly ticket.
I dont believe that they should lose such a significant amount of funding but if it isnt being spent properly in the first place then i have limited sympathy
TJH, York says...
12:37pm Thu 27 Sep 07
peter k wrote:Peter K - obviously you misunderstood previous posts on the subject so (slowly so you can keep up)
After reading this story I felt so deeply sorry that poor mr policeman cant have his new subaru impreza turbo undercover police car that i have donated 10p to the cause. IMO The police should be out on the streets working, not driving around in sports cars looking to make some money from a fixed penaly ticket. I dont believe that they should lose such a significant amount of funding but if it isnt being spent properly in the first place then i have limited sympathy
The - police - do - not - make - money - from - fixed - penalty - tickets, it - goes - to - the -Government.
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
12:42pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
12:43pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
12:45pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
12:46pm Thu 27 Sep 07
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not Jimbob, Not York says...
12:48pm Thu 27 Sep 07
This cr*ppy website is worse than normal today.
Whoever looks after it needs a kick in the nuts.
GDave, York says...
12:53pm Thu 27 Sep 07
This campaign is exactly what a local paper should be doing.
It won't make any difference though.
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
1:00pm Thu 27 Sep 07
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Harry W., Yarmouth, Cape Cod, USA says...
1:02pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Harry W.
GDave, York says...
1:03pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Not Jimbob wrote:Agreed!
My God! This cr*ppy website is worse than normal today. Whoever looks after it needs a kick in the nuts.
Just posted something saying this is what the Press should be doing, although it won't work.
It hasn't appeared so stuff em
akuma, York says...
1:42pm Thu 27 Sep 07
It's run by an external company who merely facilitate it remaining up and running.
If you post at lunch time when most people are on your comments will be qued before they appear, usually this happens straight away, but when it's busy it can take X number of seconds or minutes.
Remember its a free site so the servers not going to be state of the art, I think a bit of patients is in order.
Bemused, says...
1:45pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Posted by: akuma, York on 11:44am today
A bit off topic but all our comments from the mad dentist lady story have been removed. I said they would cover her statement up and then bury her for it, well it's started!
Posted by: Envelopes are brown, @ CYC on 12:11pm today
Well I will just say it again:
SACK Janet Soo-Chung
The sooner they get rid of her the better.
The Press should be ashamed of removing the justifiably critical comments on that thread. It's a denial of freedom speech on a most important issue. More and more do I think we live in what is becoming a Stalinist dictatorship.
andyb, york says...
1:51pm Thu 27 Sep 07
If we did the kgb would have hauled you off for the thumbscrews by now.
Peenjay, Fromere says...
2:21pm Thu 27 Sep 07
There are Really some people who should take a reality check..
"Get some humour" and not be afraid to take the mickey out of life! We are just putting forward OUR thoughts......Most of them are relevant.....BUT they are in the main..humourous
Cheers.
Bemused, says...
2:21pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Posted by: andyb, york on 1:51pm today
"More and more do I think we live in what is becoming a Stalinist dictatorship." If we did the kgb would have hauled you off for the thumbscrews by now.
"More and more do I think we live in what is becoming a Stalinist dictatorship."
If we did the kgb would have hauled you off for the thumbscrews by now.
You really can't follow any sort of argument can you? Pathetic!
Diogenes, York says...
2:28pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Ever seen a police officer outside of the city centre?
andyb, york says...
3:37pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Bemused, says...
4:02pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Well, bemused,if the argument is that the country is being run by a government that is increasingly Stalinist, then the assumption must be that stalinist methods of surveillance would be employed,etc etc etc
You're a literal minded idiot I can't be bothered with.
andyb, york says...
4:06pm Thu 27 Sep 07
Bemused, says...
4:06pm Thu 27 Sep 07
York MP Hugh Bayley said: "I would fight cuts to policing in North Yorkshire tooth and nail."
And if it happens he will resign? Please?
ouserower, york says...
5:25pm Thu 27 Sep 07
andyb, york says...
5:33pm Thu 27 Sep 07
ouserower wrote:I dont know, what do you think?
I remember about 6 years ago the rates jumped due to Police funding increase of about 75% So are we going to get a reduction in rates?
read-all-about-it, Haxby says...
9:35pm Thu 27 Sep 07
york1900, York says...
12:07am Fri 28 Sep 07
york1900, York says...
12:13am Fri 28 Sep 07
Diogenes wrote:Yes I have but they go round with there eyes closed and you have to point thing out to them other wise they just walk or drive by
No more money for the North Yorkshire Police Service until we get value for our money, which we don't at present. Ever seen a police officer outside of the city centre?
if it is not on one of there target lists
orion, P.R.Y says...
10:46am Fri 28 Sep 07
Yes also to the fact it will be the pcs whos positions will go - but not by being sacked more like wont refill posts as more leave/retire. All that means is a throwback to the numbers of the 70s but with 2007 crime rates.
And I have seen POLICE OFFICERS outside the city ( no, they werent PCSO's ) its just that there arent a lot of them no matter what the likes of the chief and bigwigs say! so cutting down on "not a lot" leaves - less!
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Nomadic, York says...
11:10am Thu 27 Sep 07