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‘Junk mail’ will not be delivered
12:00pm Friday 28th September 2007
Comments (49)HOUSEHOLDERS across York and North Yorkshire could see a dramatic drop in the amount of "junk mail" posted through their letter boxes over coming weeks.
Posties have been told they will not be delivering any unsolicited mail over the next three weeks, a union leader claimed today.
Paul Clays, the York-based regional secretary of the Communication Workers' Union, said workers had been told of the move by management during a staff briefing yesterday.
He said it was a response to union plans to stage two 48-hour strikes over the next fortnight in pursuit of a grievance over pay and conditions.
But he claimed management rather than unions were to blame for the decision. He said postal workers were quite prepared to deliver unsolicited mail, and it was the Royal Mail which had decided to suspend the service after repeatedly talking about the importance of retaining business.
A Royal Mail spokeswoman confirmed the industrial action could lead to fewer unsolicited deliveries.
"The CWU's strike action, which is designed to damage Royal Mail, its customers and its people, will make it impossible for us to deliver the services normally to our customers," said a spokeswoman.
"We are taking steps now to give customers in the fully competitive door-to-door market the opportunity to change their mailing plans or, if necessary, make alternative arrangements."
Postal workers have been involved in weeks of industrial action over a 2.5 per cent pay offer and modernisation plans, which they claim will put about 40,000 jobs at risk.
Fresh action was called earlier this month after talks with the company broke down.
The first 48-hour strike will start next Friday and the second on the following Monday.
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akuma, York says...
12:11pm Fri 28 Sep 07
HOBBIT, at work says...
12:15pm Fri 28 Sep 07
paul, York says...
12:16pm Fri 28 Sep 07
akuma, York says...
12:19pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Royal Mail gest paid, postage costs don't go up.
It's not difficult.
HOBBIT, at work says...
12:23pm Fri 28 Sep 07
da, york says...
12:24pm Fri 28 Sep 07
logik, york says...
12:33pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
1:04pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Talk about burying bad news!
lj, york says...
1:11pm Fri 28 Sep 07
This will be followed by an unspecified programme of weekly strikes, starting week commencing October 15th, until the resolution of the dispute.
We are currently assessing the full impact on services, and will communicate this as soon as possible, but severe disruption to all postal services is inevitable.
I hope no one is expecting any important letters over next weekend!
lj, york says...
1:12pm Fri 28 Sep 07
This will be followed by an unspecified programme of weekly strikes, starting week commencing October 15th, until the resolution of the dispute.
We are currently assessing the full impact on services, and will communicate this as soon as possible, but severe disruption to all postal services is inevitable.
I hope no one is expecting any important letters over next weekend!
HOBBIT, at work says...
1:33pm Fri 28 Sep 07
lj wrote:I never expect any at all nowadays to be honest..... or if I do get any its a good few days after it shoudl have arrived
Royal Mail can confirm that the Communications Workers Union (CWU) has announced further strike action, in the form of two 48-hour strikes on Friday 5th Saturday 6th October, and Monday 8th Tuesday 9th October. This will be followed by an unspecified programme of weekly strikes, starting week commencing October 15th, until the resolution of the dispute. We are currently assessing the full impact on services, and will communicate this as soon as possible, but severe disruption to all postal services is inevitable. I hope no one is expecting any important letters over next weekend!
da, york says...
2:01pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Bemused, says...
2:20pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Posties have been told they will not be delivering any unsolicited mail over the next three weeks, a union leader claimed today.
Good, and don't resume delivering it. I've tried opt out but it's been ignored.
SilverSurfer, Surfing says...
2:54pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
2:56pm Fri 28 Sep 07
da wrote:for those who don't know about pensions row. royal mail wants to close scheme to new entrants' raise retirement age by 5 years and move from final salary scheme to total service average scheme. this would remove £1.5 billion from pension fund. all major employers will be watching to see if royal mail gets away with this. so if you are in a company pension scheme. be afraid.
royal mail is acctually striking from noon thurs 4th till noon sat 6th & from 3am mon 8th till 3am wed 10th and if any of you knew why you would,nt begrudge the posties doing so.come october you,ll find your mail arriving even later than it does now because royal mail are introducing later start times for delivery staff by the end of october sunday collections are going to be scrapped before long they even want to scrap all weekend working. dont get me started on the pension issue that royal mail want to reorganise
Not Jimbob, Not York says...
2:59pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
3:09pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Not Jimbob wrote:oh. what a brilliant idea. i'd like to see you do our job. could you get up at 4am every morning, sort mail for 3.5 hours and then go and deliver 7/8 heavy bags of mail in pouring rain and gale force winds for another 4 hours or so ?
Let's just get rid of Royal Mail, fire 'em all. Then when they're shelf stacking at Tesco for minimum wage as they have no skills, it might finally dawn on them that they F*CKED UP!
Mister Sheen, Right round the house says...
3:18pm Fri 28 Sep 07
What am I going to light the fire with now??!!
Anyone got any yellow pages (- more unsolicitied junk mail -) they don't want?
SilverSurfer, Surfing says...
3:18pm Fri 28 Sep 07
could you get up at 4am every morning, sort mail for 3.5 hours and then go and deliver 7/8 heavy bags of mail in pouring rain and gale force winds for another 4 hours or so ?What qualifications do we need?
A user, Selby says...
3:22pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
3:27pm Fri 28 Sep 07
SilverSurfer wrote:we can't all be brain surgeons like you obviously think you are. you just need to be able to get youself out of bed in a morning, be physicaly fit and be able to smile at ungrateful so and so's like you.
could you get up at 4am every morning, sort mail for 3.5 hours and then go and deliver 7/8 heavy bags of mail in pouring rain and gale force winds for another 4 hours or so ?What qualifications do we need?
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
3:29pm Fri 28 Sep 07
A user, Selby says...
3:36pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
3:36pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:if you knew the first thing about the job. you would know that royal mail certainly does not pay hundreds of pounds in overtime to catch up after strikes. and by the way these next strikes are costing us upwards of £120 per week. do you seriously think we are doing this just because we are lazy ? if we didn't have just cause we would not be prepared to lose this amount of money with xmas just around the corner.
You also need to be good at maths in order to count the hundreds of pounds in overtime that you will get for doing the catch up work after the strike finishes.
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
3:37pm Fri 28 Sep 07
A user, Selby says...
3:37pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
3:44pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:maybe you were winding him up ? i can assure you he will not be getting stacks of overtime. royal mail will not let us lose money striking and then just give it all back to us in overtime.
So the postman who was gloating to me about all the overtime he would be getting is lying then?
postie28, york says...
3:47pm Fri 28 Sep 07
A user wrote:see your point a user. but this dispute needs to be brought to an end sooner rather than later. if we don't take action now some elements of the service will be lost forever long before xmas.
Your bosses will be able to afford Xmas so why do they not think about you and your collegues and do the striking after Xmas? Just a thought...
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
3:47pm Fri 28 Sep 07
A user, Selby says...
3:55pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
3:56pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:first point. if you read all of my comments on this dispute you should by now be realising it is not just about a pay increase. the actual pay offer would be acceptable. it's the hoops they are asking us to jump through to get it that are unacceptable. e.g pension cuts , job losses, cut's in services i.e no more collections on sundays and bank holidays. etc. second point monday is traditionly a quiet day . mostly 2nd class mail from friday. although i find it hard to believe that you NEVER get mail on a monday. even if it's just junk mail most people get at least something.
To be honest I don't care if you strike or not. The service is that appalling I doubt anyone would notice whether you were at work or in the pub. There's certainly no evidence to support a claim for a pay increase. For a start why do I never get mail on Mondays?
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
3:58pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
4:02pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:strange. maybe you could give your local delivery office a ring . see if there is a problem. all due mail should go out on a monday. there is no obvious reason why it wouldn't.
I should get my tenants rent cheque on a Monday like all other Housing Benefit customers. It always comes on a Tuesday. Other people where I live complain of no mail on Monday's too.
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
4:06pm Fri 28 Sep 07
platform 9, york says...
4:16pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps, says...
4:18pm Fri 28 Sep 07
platform 9, york says...
4:21pm Fri 28 Sep 07
platform 9, york says...
4:22pm Fri 28 Sep 07
postie28, york says...
4:29pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:even so. i would guess each individual flat has it's own bell .so he should still be able to get access
My guess is that seeing as the postman never usually comes til late morning at the best of times that they can't get into the communal building as the tradesmans bell stops working at 11am.
nimrod, Acomb says...
6:02pm Fri 28 Sep 07
Gardener, York says...
6:28pm Fri 28 Sep 07
yian, Pickering says...
10:18pm Fri 28 Sep 07
jim wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only person that does that!
Saves me a job - I won't have to put the stuff back into a postbox.
I used to send back other leaflets in the reply paid envelopes but that gets boring after a while.
If everyone stuffed junk mail back into postboxes then Royal Mail would soon stop delivering it.
diane, NZ says...
10:42am Sat 29 Sep 07
da, york says...
11:06am Sat 29 Sep 07
Not Jimbob wrote:if you came and did a days work at royal mail, you would have something decent to say, try been up for 10hrs before you get a drink and something to eat. at least tescos would give you a meal break.i get up at 3 five morns a week start at 4 and finish at 1120 on a meal relief by the time i get home im beyond hunger. managers put more &more on us if we dont stand up to royal mail they will just walk over us and the only people who suffer are you the general public.what postie28 has written is only the tip of the ice berg we are fighting for our livlihoods and futures. start talking sense and not the cr*p you put here.
Let's just get rid of Royal Mail, fire 'em all. Then when they're shelf stacking at Tesco for minimum wage as they have no skills, it might finally dawn on them that they F*CKED UP!
Bemused, says...
1:39pm Sat 29 Sep 07
here in nz you can go and buy a sign for $2 saying 'No junk mail please', perhaps I should send circulars to all York residents offering to send some signs so you don't get junk mail? But that would be to easy!!
It's been tried. The few postmen who can read well enough to put only your post through your letter box, ignore them.
baldie postie, easingwold says...
7:07pm Sat 29 Sep 07
Rust_Never_Sleeps wrote:After reading your various comments before,as a hard working postie,i have to reply.We are not all lazy,some of us are working through the strikes,because unlike you we have mortgages,we can't all be doley scroungers with bad attitudes!!!!!
I should get my tenants rent cheque on a Monday like all other Housing Benefit customers. It always comes on a Tuesday. Other people where I live complain of no mail on Monday's too.
Despairing Yorkie, York says...
9:03pm Sat 29 Sep 07
for those who don't know about pensions row. royal mail wants to close scheme to new entrants' raise retirement age by 5 years and move from final salary scheme to total service average scheme.
This would be the revised public sector pension scheme which has just been voted for and approved by ALL the civil service unions. Stop moaning and get real - it's still a salary-level-based pension scheme, which is more than you will get anywhere in the private sector.
SilverSurfer, Surfing says...
9:04am Mon 1 Oct 07
you just need to be able to get youself out of bed in a morning, be physicaly fit and be able to smile at ungrateful so and so's like you.Been away for the weekend and had to answer this! I spent a large part of my working life in the forces - 3 tours of Ireland and a jaunt to the Falklands dealing with people far worse than postie28 has to deal with! Poor lamb!
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jim, york says...
12:08pm Fri 28 Sep 07