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No change in York house prices

8:14am Friday 12th October 2007

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YORK is bucking the national trend of falling house prices, but they are not rising either.

That is the verdict of estate agents in the region as worries about the economy, interest rate rises and a tougher line on mortgage lending start to bite into the housing market, with many buyers staying away.

National figures from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) show prices are dropping at their fastest rate for two years, while the number of people looking to buy a home also plummeted.

In North Yorkshire, the housing market has levelled off rather than heading downward, but RICS member Edward Waterson of Carter Jonas estate agents in York admits it is suffering from cold feet.

"As yet, there is no evidence of any significant fall in prices in York and North Yorkshire," he said. "However, the froth has gone out of the market and vendors are having to be more realistic than they would have been at the start of the year.

"We will wait and see how the pattern develops and things will become clearer as we go towards Christmas. But the market never thieves on uncertainty, and there are many uncertain factors around."

Kevin Hollinrake, director of York estate agency Hunters, believes General Election speculation has done the housing market few favours.

"The market in this area is holding steady, but we're not seeing any growth and that's unusual," he said.

"If that continues for an extended period - probably until next spring - we would then start to see falling prices, and I certainly wouldn't expect any growth in the market until next March or April as well. We're still getting plenty of enquiries, but the number of actual sales has fallen by around 35 per cent.

"There are several reasons for the slowdown, such as rising interest rates, the introduction of Home Information Packs and uncertainty caused by election fever, which inevitably makes people more cautious. However, all these factors have stabilised now."

Across the UK during September, 14.6 per cent more surveyors experienced a drop in house prices than those reporting a rise, compared to a 3.3 per cent gap in August, with East Anglia, Wales and the Midlands bearing the brunt, The RICS painted a pessimistic picture about the outlook for prices and buyers as house price growth reached its lowest level since May 2005, while the number of new properties coming onto the market fell for the fourth month in a row across every UK area except London.


Just what is affordable?'

A FIRM of builders is calling on City of York Council to let people know what is meant by the term "affordable homes".

York-based firm Hogg The Builder claims not enough people understand the term and it could be crucial in the coming weeks as residents are asked to take part in a huge city-wide consultation exercise.

People in York will be able to vote' on the issues they feel are important for the city later this month, as part of the second Festival of Ideas.

Geoff Scott, of Hogg The Builder, claims the term "affordable homes" is not fully explained as part of the process and that there is a danger residents may not fully understand its implications.

Mr Scott said the danger is that most people will think it is starter homes for first-time buys when the Government definition is social housing, or Housing Association Homes.

He said: "We believe the Government targets to build 850 new homes in York each year from 2008 until 2026 is unachievable due to the current 50 per cent social housing requirement on developments of 15 or more homes and are concerned that the current policy is resulting in very few homes of any kind being developed."

The Festival of Ideas 2 is being organised by York's Local Strategic Partnership, Without Walls, and City of York Council's City Development team and runs until October 31.

Bill Woolley, city strategy director, said: "We want to find out what people's priorities are, so we can try to ensure we make York the best place possible to live, work and visit."

The results from the festival will be used to revise the vision and community strategy and to develop the council's core strategy document.



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Noddy1, York says...
9:29am Fri 12 Oct 07

Geoff Scott, of Hogg The Builder, claims the term "affordable homes" is not fully explained as part of the process and that there is a danger residents may not fully understand its implications.

Mr Scott said the danger is that most people will think it is starter homes for first-time buys when the Government definition is social housing, or Housing Association Homes.


Thank you thats cleared up what an affordable house is.

I do feel sorry for the first time buyer's.

ouserower, york says...
9:50am Fri 12 Oct 07

Prices are falling really. There are too many flats on the market and prices are going down. Hold tight and buy when cheaper!

wyat next, york says...
9:58am Fri 12 Oct 07

Asking estate agents about the state of the housing market,who are you kidding?

Envelopes are brown, @ CYC says...
10:07am Fri 12 Oct 07

An extra two bottle of goldtop tomorrow please Kev.

(A), York says...
11:09am Fri 12 Oct 07

ouserower wrote:
Prices are falling really. There are too many flats on the market and prices are going down. Hold tight and buy when cheaper!
Developers wouldn't be building flats if there was no demand for them. The real problem here is the glut of buy-to-let investors who snap up these properties as soon as they hit the market, thus contributing to perpetual inflated prices and disenfranchising many on low incomes looking to buy their first home. If the definition of affordable housing given in the article above is correct, then the percentage of new homes built which fall within this criteria should be substantially greater than 50%, as this will ultimately help to ameliorate the current housing crisis, as buy-to-letters are barred from purchasing such properties.

Miss Amelia Rate, YORK says...
11:47am Fri 12 Oct 07

What does "the market never thieves on uncertainty" mean? para 6.

Noddy1, York says...
12:15pm Fri 12 Oct 07

(A) Wrote

The real problem here is the glut of buy-to-let investors who snap up these properties as soon as they hit the market


I agree but isn't Brown going to introduce a massive tax on these people?

Notjimbhobs_mate, York says...
12:47pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Noddy1 wrote:
(A) Wrote
The real problem here is the glut of buy-to-let investors who snap up these properties as soon as they hit the market
I agree but isn't Brown going to introduce a massive tax on these people?
I think that is aimed at people with holiday homes, I could be wrong but its something to do with having a second home which isn't used as a business, which buy to let's would be I believe. Could be wrong, anyone know anymore about that?

(A), York says...
1:00pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Notjimbhobs_mate wrote:
Noddy1 wrote: (A) Wrote
The real problem here is the glut of buy-to-let investors who snap up these properties as soon as they hit the market
I agree but isn't Brown going to introduce a massive tax on these people?
I think that is aimed at people with holiday homes, I could be wrong but its something to do with having a second home which isn't used as a business, which buy to let's would be I believe. Could be wrong, anyone know anymore about that?
The recent changes in capital gains tax actually benefits buy-to-letters

see:

http://www.thisismon
ey.co.uk/mortgages/b
uy-to-let/article.ht
ml?in_article_id=425
195&in_page_id=1

(A), York says...
1:04pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Notjimbhobs_mate wrote:
Noddy1 wrote: (A) Wrote
The real problem here is the glut of buy-to-let investors who snap up these properties as soon as they hit the market
I agree but isn't Brown going to introduce a massive tax on these people?
I think that is aimed at people with holiday homes, I could be wrong but its something to do with having a second home which isn't used as a business, which buy to let's would be I believe. Could be wrong, anyone know anymore about that?
The recent changes in capital gains tax will actually benefit buy-to-letters:

see:

http://www.thisismon
ey.co.uk/mortgages/b
uy-to-let/article.ht
ml?in_article_id=425
195&in_page_id=1

Notjimbhobs_mate, York says...
1:19pm Fri 12 Oct 07

cheers for that (A) From my understanding then it's even more incentive to buy to let which means as a first time buyer (someday I wish)It's going to be even longer before I can afford to put my savings down on a property in York. Fantastic..

martin, York says...
6:18pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Articles such as this should be preceded with 'Estate agents, whose livelihood depends on a healthy housing market, with the knowledge that it is difficult to verify their figures, claimed that.....'

martin, York says...
6:19pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Articles such as this should be preceded with 'Estate agents, whose livelihood depends on a healthy housing market, with the knowledge that it is difficult to verify their figures, claimed that.....'

by-ek-pet, huntington says...
9:54pm Fri 12 Oct 07

3 stages now await the ill wind to follow
1.A rise in interest rates( either Bank or Bank of England)
2.As people come out of their fixed rate mortgages, secured some 3 years ago- a terrible shock awaits as their payback rises some 60%
3.A poor set of sales figures on the high street will bring both job cuts and uncertainty to an already fearful market.

Houses will go on the market, rents will not rise, house prices will at best remain stable at worst...25% drop and taxes will start to creep up in anticipation of the Olympics and need to pay benefits for the shop workers etc now unemployed.....Hold onto your hats, its going to be a strong wind!

by-ek-pet, huntington says...
10:08pm Fri 12 Oct 07

Taking into account the insentive to sell with The recent changes in capital gains tax - you will see a lot of 2nd/3rd houses on the market as investors exit stage left....supply and demand forces will kick in, with buyers being again able to choose based on location/price and upkeep...the tree will have been truely shaken by this terrible ill wind

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