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2:55pm Saturday 1st December 2007

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PLANS to build a 5,500 home eco-town near York have been branded "completely inappropriate" by Vale of York MP Anne McIntosh.

The Tory MP claimed the proposed development to the north of Clifton Moor would worsen traffic congestion on the outer ring road, and suggested the area was also at risk of flooding.

Ms McIntosh was responding to an exclusive story in The Press yesterday, which revealed that City of York Council had received notice of plans for the development of green belt land immediately north of Clifton Moor.

Council leader Steve Galloway told a meeting that a partnership of developers Hallam Land and CEG was believed to be behind a "covert" scheme to build the settlement in line with Government plans to step up the country's house-building programme.

Miss McIntosh said the development would fall in her constituency, and she would resist it because she had stood at the last election on a platform of opposition to building on green belt land.

She suggested that brownfield sites such as York Central and the doomed British Sugar factory should be developed instead. She said there was also a problem of flooding in the area, as had been demonstrated during the floods of Nove- mber 2000.

"It would also be a nightmare on the roads, including the outer ring road," she said. "I doubt if people at Clifton Moor would welcome it."

She said conflicting messages were coming out of Government over matters such as the construction of new homes in areas at risk of flooding.

York MP Hugh Bayley said that any proposals for a new eco-town would have to go through the local authority planning process, like any other development.

He said that the Government was looking to develop one environmentally-friendly town in each region in England, of between 5,000 and 20,000 people, and this scheme would be at the bottom end of this range.

He suggested that the York council should have discussions with neighbouring authorities at Leeds and Harrogate about the possibility of a new eco-town in the so-called golden triangle between the three communities, where houses prices were being pushed up by increased demand.

Hallam Land and CEG yesterday declined to make any comment to The Press, but indicated they would do so next week.

We asked people in York what they thought of the scheme for new homes near Clifton Moor

  • Helga Seabourne, 42, a housewife, of Strensall, said: "You have to ask if it is needed and if it's that sustainable, can't they spread them out more? And I do think that congestion is a huge problem in the area."
  • Lee Graham, 28, a chef of Huntington, said: "York needs more housing but all major cities have traffic problems. Everyone needs homes and there is a decent public transport system so not everyone needs to drive."
  • Samantha Anderson, 33, shop manager of South Bank, York, said: "Eco-homes are a brilliant idea - we need more ecologically-friendly homes. Congestion is a problem and the fact that it is a green belt is a problem."
  • Helen Power, 31 of Huntington, said: "There isn't enough housing for York residents. Environmentally-friendly housing is a good thing and as for the congestion, everyone should walk!"

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Ethel Teeth, Clifton says...
5:46pm Sat 1 Dec 07

What is the point of making areas "green belt" when authorities can just change their minds and build on it???

Mullarkian, York says...
5:50pm Sat 1 Dec 07

What exactly is and eco-home and can only eco-people live in them? The usual trendy greeny tripe spurts forth again.
The only truly 'eco' solutions would perhaps be mud or straw huts.

read-all-about-it, Haxby says...
8:36pm Sat 1 Dec 07

Completely inappropriate Anne?

Barmy morelike!

Cynic, York says...
9:58pm Sat 1 Dec 07

He suggested that the York council should have discussions with neighbouring authorities at Leeds and Harrogate about the possibility of a new eco-town in the so-called golden triangle between the three communities, where houses prices were being pushed up by increased demand.
And if this went ahead, where would all the people living there work? Yes - York, Leeds and Harrogate. And how would they get there? Yes - they would drive! Suggesting building 'Eco' housing miles from any sources of employment is completely pointless as all the extra car journeys will completely negate any 'green' features in the houses themselves. I think we can be fairly certain that only a minority of people would use public transport even if it was reliable enough, which is unlikely anyway.

Confused, York says...
8:34am Sun 2 Dec 07

"She suggested that brownfield sites such as York Central and the doomed British Sugar factory should be developed instead."
Yes this is the solution because no one living at the sugar factory would use the ring road!!! or would it be in someone elses constituency (NIMBY) and why in the information generation can't more people work from home use broadband etc?

bjb, York says...
9:20am Sun 2 Dec 07

Ethel Teeth wrote:
What is the point of making areas "green belt" when authorities can just change their minds and build on it???
What is the point of creating 'green belt' that is carved in stone, thus preventing any chance of meeting future housing needs. We hear a lot about using brown field sites, but as far as I know, these are already spoken for. As the city becomes totally saturated and the ability to build new homes and commercial premises that provide jobs, where else other than 'green belt' can they go, other than upwards as tower blocks of flats?

Ethel Teeth, Clifton says...
12:05pm Sun 2 Dec 07

bjb wrote:
Ethel Teeth wrote: What is the point of making areas "green belt" when authorities can just change their minds and build on it???
What is the point of creating 'green belt' that is carved in stone, thus preventing any chance of meeting future housing needs. We hear a lot about using brown field sites, but as far as I know, these are already spoken for. As the city becomes totally saturated and the ability to build new homes and commercial premises that provide jobs, where else other than 'green belt' can they go, other than upwards as tower blocks of flats?
How about to another city? There are too many southerners commuting from York every day to London. There are too many families kicked out of their homes for antisocial behavior in other cities and automatically getting a council house here. People from York will not benefit from these new houses because they will either be snapped up by "But to let" landlords, or given to immigrants, dolemonsters or drug addicts with 15 kids.

Why not build new houses on sites like Foss Islands instead on giving Morrisons a new supermarket? Because of greed, that is why.

Cynic, York says...
9:00pm Sun 2 Dec 07

Why not build new houses on sites like Foss Islands instead on giving Morrisons a new supermarket? Because of greed, that is why.
It's the Barbican site which particularly annoys me. The hoardings are already advertising 'exclusive 1 & 2 bedroom apartmennts'. This was council-owned land so why couldn't it be used for the affordable family houses which all surveys say are needed? There's not exactly a shortage of flats which are too small for families and out of the price range of normal people on normal wages for the area, so why do we need yet more? Especially considering that we have lost a leisure facility in the process.

Nemesis, York says...
3:48pm Mon 3 Dec 07

Ms Mackintosh is seriously misinformed. The land to the North of Clifton Moor is NOT at risk of flooding & I would like to know where this information came from - not the Environment Agency - whose offices are on ...Clifton Moor!
The NIMBYS would perhaps like the housing to leapfrog the "greenbelt" facing onto the retail park and perhaps go on more useful agricultural land further to the North. This would make any new settlement more remote from infrastructure and just as likely to increase traffic traversing the ring road. Has no-one figured out that to get into or out of York it is necessary to cross the ring road?
York can either grow and develop, or we can all decide to live in mud huts and become a "living museum" for the tourists - who will eventually give up coming as they can't gain access to the City either. A development of this size near to the A1237 may give rise to opportunities for developer contribution to improving the public transport, amenities, and the road itself.

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