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GPs concerned by NHS computer deal

11:29am Wednesday 12th December 2007

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A row has erupted between York doctors and regional health bosses after it was revealed hundreds of thousands of pieces of data from vital patient records are at risk of being lost forever.

GPs in York claimed they were not consulted before North Yorkshire & York Primary Care Trust (PCT) signed up to a new strategy aimed at changing the computer system used in the city's surgeries.

According to the doctors, up to five per cent of data could be lost when the patient records are transferred - the equivalent of one surgery losing everything that was put on the system in the past 15 months.

Richard Smith, chairman of York's patient forum, accused health bosses of "playing with people's health". He said: "This is not good news for patients and we are not happy that there seems to have been no consultation with the patient forums.

"It looks like it's cost-saving again by the PCT, but it will cause a lot of problems for patients, doctors and medical practitioners.

"They are playing with people's health and it is very worrying."

Dr Brian McGregor, of Gale Farm Surgery, in York, said: "If data is lost then patients' medical histories won't be complete and this will cause a lot of problems.

"Everybody is fairly concerned about it. We don't know what might be lost - it might be important consultant letters, or maybe ten years of blood pressure readings."

Eighty per cent of the 102 practices covered by North Yorkshire & York PCT currently use the system EMIS.

But under a new strategy agreed last month, the PCT aims to have 70 per cent of practices transferred to a new package, called SystmOne, by 2009.

The £10,000 cost must be met by GP surgeries, although there will be funding available from the PCT.

Dr McGregor, who is also vice-chairman of the Local Medical Committee, said he feared all GP surgeries in York would now be forced to switch to a system that he believed was inferior.

He said: "It would be an enforced change from a system that works well and is ahead of the game to a system that is behind the game.

"Any other health authority would brand York as a centre of excellence for promoting communication, but they want to throw all that away.

"At the moment, all consultant letters are transferred to the GP records at the click of a button, but with the new system we would have to revert to using snail mail."

But a spokesperson for NHS Yorkshire and the Humber said the new system would allow the sharing of clinical information in this way and said the aim was to deliver "new, integrated IT systems and services to help modernise the NHS".

She also claimed there would be no data lost from patient records during the transfer process and no GPs would be forced to change systems.

An urgent meeting has been called between the local medical committee, the PCT managers and GPs in a bid to settle the dispute.


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akuma, York says...
11:40am Wed 12 Dec 07

GPs in York claimed they were not consulted before North Yorkshire & York Primary Care Trust (PCT) signed up to a new strategy aimed at changing the computer system used in the city's surgeries.


Typical.

It appears the expensive management consultants and accountants have designed a new computer system and not bothered to ask the actual people you who it how they like to see it designed to best serve them and the public.

I do not know of one sector of business where this does not happen.

When will these people learn???

pjtrishj, acomb says...
11:57am Wed 12 Dec 07

my feeling is that, medical records may go astray, a lot of personal data has been 'lost' through government of peoples names, d.o.b. address, etc, i find this rather suspicious, the coutry is full of immigrints (no offence) who work for people who own our identity, whos to say the terrorists are planning to target ex squaddies and those families who are serving, and any thing else they want to distroy??? uk is now changing our way of life, our beliefs, ect, to fit in with other religions, when in rome do as the romans do when in the uk do as the BRITISH PEOPLE DO,

exasperated, York says...
12:31pm Wed 12 Dec 07

When have the PCT ever consulted anybody over anything ! What does it take to get through to these people.

Once again the PCT seems bent on "blowing" up bridges with local GP's rather than building them .

exasperated, York says...
12:34pm Wed 12 Dec 07

When have the PCT ever consulted anybody over anything ! What does it take to get through to these people.

Once again the PCT seems bent on "blowing" up bridges with local GP's rather than building them .

BL, says...
1:24pm Wed 12 Dec 07

It's a bit like York Council - we're going to do it this way and we couldn't care less what you think or whether it will actually work...

Wanderer, Canada says...
3:59pm Wed 12 Dec 07

Perhaps there is another side to this story. Reading the comments at the end of the article suggests the statement by doctors may be untrue
"According to the doctors, up to five per cent of data could be lost".

What if there are a few doctors who are reluctant to change and made up the story to prevent the new system being introduced?

There are always two sides to a story - have we got a clear picture of both?

BMcGregor, York says...
12:41am Thu 13 Dec 07

Well, yes there are 2 sides to every story, and I always try to be as honest as possible with the reporters, for information YEP contacted me re this story, I did not seek to publicise it, and if anyone wants to see the outcome please go to

http://www.ehiprimar
ycare.com/news/3299/
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where you will see the PCT has been instructed to remove it's demands from Practices, and back off, GPs are reluctant to change - mainly because what we have works well, if it isn't broken why fix it? To convert now will literally put primary care computing back 4-5 years, minimum, of interest, the same SHA group came ot York District Hospital, reviewed our local communication network, admitted they were 3-4 years ahead of anything the "new" system was capable of, and said they would return in 2010-2011. This is simply a load of bureaucratic nonsense that will tie up your GP surgery for weeks/months on end to try and sort out, and further restrict acceess - your Tax money at work!

Brian McGregor

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