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11:39am Thursday 17th January 2008
THE cost to the taxpayer of going green at two Government offices in York is a controversial £28.3 million.
The bill is being run up during a refurbishment at the Department of the Environment, Food And Rural Affairs' (Defra) offices in Kings Pool, off Peasholme Green, aimed at making the buildings more "sustainable".
The extensive buildings were constructed 14 years ago.
The work, which includes the installation of solar thermal hot water, rainwater harvesting and ultra-efficient gas-fired boilers, will save 15 tons of carbon a year - equivalent to the typical emissions from nine UK houses.
Hilary Benn, Secretary of State for the Environment, Food And Rural Affairs, speaking during a visit to York, robustly defended the expenditure, saying it was essential that everyone - from Government to individuals - reduced their carbon emissions if the world was to avoid rising sea levels and other environmental disasters. He insisted the project was not a symbolic gesture, but a practical measure which would prevent damaging carbon being poured into the atmosphere.
"We are all going to be affected by climate change and we all have a responsibility to do something about it," he said.
But the spending was branded "extortionate" by Graham Bowers, of the PCS union, which represents many civil servants on the site, where more than 800 people are employed.
He claimed carrying out the work would in itself create carbon emissions, for example, through the transportation of materials, equipment and workers to the site, negating the benefits.
"Goodness knows how many years it will take to recoup that," he said.
He also claimed the project came at a time when the Government was cutting expenditure elsewhere, resulting in fewer civil servants doing more work, with a resulting drop in morale.
Michael Watkins, head of estates, said: "The two office buildings at York are being refurbished in an industry-leading way, minimising waste output while maximising the recycling of any waste materials produced.
"In addition, the new Social Hub a staff social meeting and conferencing area has been designed to have a minimal carbon footprint through the use of low-carbon features, including sun pipes, above average thermal insulation properties and a green roof system which will also help improve the local ecology, in conjunction with the new improved landscaping."
He stressed the costs at Kings Pool had been higher than might normally be expected because the work was having to be carried out with staff in situ.
Workers were having to be moved to offices at Monks Cross while the refurbishment happened in their area, resulting in the department have to pay rent on two buildings at once.
He added the project would also increase the number of available workstations from the current 850 to 1,150 in a naturally-ventilated open plan modern working environment, together with the Social Hub extension and business centre.
oli4uk, York says...
1:01pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Alan Shaw, Bootham says...
1:05pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Confused, York says...
1:11pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Confused, York says...
1:15pm Thu 17 Jan 08
dragonian, york says...
1:29pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Noddy1, York says...
1:33pm Thu 17 Jan 08
devnull, York says...
1:33pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Gladis Cheesepick, says...
1:48pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Noddy1 wrote:Noddy, if we dont spend now our children will pay later. This is something we must all get behind. Go green or away.
Company after company are making a serious amount of money on the word "green". Why Mr Shaw is everything green so expensive?
(A), York says...
2:13pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Joe, Skelton says...
3:09pm Thu 17 Jan 08
bjb, York says...
3:10pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Noddy1 wrote:For the same reason that as soon as you label food organic, the price doubles. They call it RIP OFF.
Company after company are making a serious amount of money on the word "green". Why Mr Shaw is everything green so expensive?
bjb, York says...
3:24pm Thu 17 Jan 08
The work, which includes the installation of solar thermal hot water, rainwater harvesting and ultra-efficient gas-fired boilers, will save 15 tons of carbon a year - equivalent to the typical emissions from nine UK houses.
devnull, York says...
4:07pm Thu 17 Jan 08
devnull, York says...
4:10pm Thu 17 Jan 08
devnull, York says...
4:17pm Thu 17 Jan 08
bjb, York says...
4:24pm Thu 17 Jan 08
the Butler, Cowichan Bay B.C Canada says...
6:30pm Thu 17 Jan 08
bjb, York says...
7:13pm Thu 17 Jan 08
the Butler wrote:This is government spending, not council.
When, if ever was this project discussed in any committee of York ratepayers? This frivolous miss-use of tax money is a disgusting example of we've got your money, so we are putting it to use,so Don't argue!
stevexbooth, Clifton Moor says...
7:52pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Franky, York says...
12:25am Fri 18 Jan 08
oli4uk, York says...
9:45am Fri 18 Jan 08
dragonian, york says...
11:27am Fri 18 Jan 08
oli4uk wrote:oli4uk, you are just denying the obvious. Work for an oil company or something do you? As the numbers of CO2 polluting cars soars and tropical rainforests get decimated at rapid rates, you do not need to be Einstein to work out why global warming is taking place!
Just so you know, 70% of scientists now say global warming is not a threat since the government backtracked on a policy that removed funding from any public scientist which did so. Carbon Dioxide goes up due to the natural chemical reactions in the sea when the temprature goes up, could this bring up the amazing correlation of the graph? (This makes up 95% of carbon emmisions, man made Carbon diocide only accounts for 0.36% of the worlds created carbon dioxide, and that doesnt include natural disasters) The hockey stick graph has been consistantly debunked, not only does it look teh same no matter what data is put in there, it also misses out things such as the warm spike in oman times, the mini iceage and the dark ages, not to mention the fact that 1934 was much warmer than todays tempratures. The temprature has been steadily declining since 1998. During the worlds greatest period of industrial activity tempratures went down. Nearly every government body has backed global warming, how would they look if they backtracked?
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Peter, york says...
12:38pm Thu 17 Jan 08