I'm sure I read an article yesterday that said 'Staffies are one of only 2 breeds recommended by the Kennel Club as good family pets' (the other being the Chesapeake Bay Retriever)....??!!

I meant to add that I hope the young lady is OK!

Not long before the admins noticed they left the comment open and close them.

But hope the girl is OK.

I wonder what the circumstances were?

It happened at a barracks? And she was taken to Middlesborough? Hope she's alright though.

It seems an irony that this poor girl has been attacked by a dog and then the above story, that poor polish bloke has been told off for protecting his daughter after she was bitten by a dog.

I see no action was taken to identify the offending dog or its owners, so it free to attack another child on another day.

i am the stig wrote:
It seems an irony that this poor girl has been attacked by a dog and then the above story, that poor polish bloke has been told off for protecting his daughter after she was bitten by a dog. I see no action was taken to identify the offending dog or its owners, so it free to attack another child on another day.

The dog was put down so I doubt it will be biting anyone else. Staffies are really placid animals but they are exactly that, animals. Any pet can turn, from a Poodle to a Rottweiler to my cat, they can all do damage to children. Staffies have the added problem of looking more vicious than they are.

I must admit I felt sorry for the Polish guy. He deserved the £200 compo instead of the kids, and what lesson have those chavs learnt? Get your dog to bite a kid and get £200 each for your trouble? Talk about mixed messages.

what lesson have those chavs learnt? Get your dog to bite a kid and get £200 each for your trouble? Talk about mixed messages.

I didn't even see how the bloke had taken the law into his own hands.

He simply detained the kids until the police arrived.

I would do exactly the same thing. OK, maybe he gave one of them a clip round the ear, but it didn't say what the kid did to provoke such as action, the little got probably punched or kicked him.

You both are talking about two seperate incidents - the dog that attacked Polish fellow's daughter has not been found, methinks.

You both are talking about two seperate incidents - the dog that attacked Polish fellow's daughter has not been found, methinks.

Exactly my friend.

While I thoughts and feelings go out to the poor girl from this story.

In the above story it seems the courts are more interested in punishing an innocent man who reacted in the way any father would react, than finding a potentially dangerous dog and stopping another incident such as what has happened here.

Backwards justice UK!

End of the day you cant start lockin kids in the back of your van without a word of explination. I have no sympathy because this was made worse by the fact he cannot speak any english. If i'd of seen a man locking 2 kids in the back of a van who clearly weren't his own i think i'd of tackled the guy.

If i'd of seen a man locking 2 kids in the back of a van who clearly weren't his own i think i'd of tackled the guy.

Point taken it looked dodgy, and any concerned citizen would be doing the community a favour to intervien and establish the facts.

But my gripe is the court was not interested in finding the potentially dangerous dog that bit a child, only punishing the bloke who reacted in a reasonable-ish manner.

If in the future this dog attacks anyone else I hope the poilce and judge feel guilty and ashamed.

i am the stig wrote:
Not long before the admins noticed they left the comment open and close them. But hope the girl is OK. I wonder what the circumstances were?

Given the few column inches devoted to this piece, I would suspect the press are hoping for someone in the know from the barracks, friend or relative to post a comment on here that they can quote later.

Why, oh why do we have so many horrific injuries and deaths of young children in such circumstances. Of course we will hear all the usual "It has always been a lovable pet" stories, but we must recognise that any dog has the potential to turn hostile and attack for no reason. The more powerful the dog, the more damage they can do.

Staffordshire bull terrier.


The new hoodies must have accessory.

Not good news in the hands of 14yr old lads.

This dog was only ever bred for one reason and that was fighting.

Whilst I'm sorry for the girl, how come when a lout attacks someone for no reason when they end up in court their patted on the head & told don't do that again, yet an animal is usually immediately destroyed before questions are asked. The point I am making is that we are far to lenient with thugs.

Sorry Smudge but I disagree.

Any dog can be aggressive no matter what size or breed.

The owner was arrested under the dangerous dogs act so to me it should like they had the American version, which is banned, in this country.

My family has had staffys in the past and they were the friendliest dogs we have had but that was down to how the dog was treated.

Sorry Smudge but I disagree.

Any dog can be aggressive no matter what size or breed.

The owner was arrested under the dangerous dogs act so to me it should like they had the American version, which is banned, in this country.

My family has had staffys in the past and they were the friendliest dogs we have had but that was down to how the dog was treated.

Sorry Smudge but I disagree.

Any dog can be aggressive no matter what size or breed.

The owner was arrested under the dangerous dogs act so to me it sounds like they had the American version, which is banned, in this country.

My family has had staffys in the past and they were the friendliest dogs we have had but that was down to how the dog was treated.

but that was down to how the dog was treated.

EXACTLY!
Most dogs can behave pretty well when trained and treated well. In the main, the Chav population treat their dogs very badly, which is bound to result in retaliation from the hound. I've lost count of the number of times i've seen Cliftonites screaming at and hitting their dogs in public - god knows what they do to them at home.
Do unto others etc etc.. animal and human alike.

A loaded gun is safe until the day someone pulls the trigger, either in anger or by accident. The end result is still the same. A dog can be the most dosile, well trained and treated until the day something snaps inside it's head and then it becomes just as lethal a weapon as a gun or knife.

bjb wrote:
A loaded gun is safe until the day someone pulls the trigger, either in anger or by accident. The end result is still the same. A dog can be the most dosile, well trained and treated until the day something snaps inside it's head and then it becomes just as lethal a weapon as a gun or knife.

As can a human.

My point is that the owners of these dangerous dogs should be jailed. I have had dogs all my life, and not one of them has been vicious. If they are trained correctly, they will behave. If they wont behave, put a muzzle on them.

All of the talk about dangerous dogs, and I'm still amazed the police and court seem to have zero or little interest in finding the dog that bit the little girl from the polish man story?

If they wont behave, put a muzzle on them.

Or at least keep them on a lead. I have had two incidents, both with unleashed staffies, in one of them I was bitten quite badly. I would lock up the owners not punish the dogs. The owners, who can't keep their pets under control, are the animals.

I have had a staffy for 13 years and he is the most loving dog to bordering daft but I would never leave him alone with a child or a stranger as at the end of day he is my responsibility and he is a dog and after owning dogs all my life I know that dogs can turn, my family has owned dogs of all breeds and we have found that alsations and collies have been the most vicious and territorial although some of the smaller breeds have been very eager to nip ankles so they have been muzzled, my staffy is soft, but I know my responsibilities, its not the dogs but the owners who should be punished (although sometimes its not always the dog fault for attacking either, if someone were to break into my house and get bitten then Im sorry but they will have to deal with the consequences of meeting my staffy whilst I am not there ! and before all alsation and collie owners comment that their dog is not vicious this is not what I am implying, just commenting in my history this is my findings just like I dare say some others will say the same for staffies, labradors, poodles etc.

That's the longest sentence I've ever read! Nearly ran out of breath!!

i am the stig wrote:
All of the talk about dangerous dogs, and I'm still amazed the police and court seem to have zero or little interest in finding the dog that bit the little girl from the polish man story?

Because nobody cares about foreigners. One of the most embarrassing things about the UK was how the Polish migrant community was treated not only in York but all over the UK. One of my grans was Polish and this sounds exactly like something she'd have done: detain the rotters until the police arrived. The Polish man ought to be the one getting 200 quid, not those kids. He ought to be given a medal and a pat on the back.

trixie wrote:
I have had a staffy for 13 years and he is the most loving dog to bordering daft but I would never leave him alone with a child or a stranger as at the end of day he is my responsibility and he is a dog and after owning dogs all my life I know that dogs can turn, my family has owned dogs of all breeds and we have found that alsations and collies have been the most vicious and territorial although some of the smaller breeds have been very eager to nip ankles so they have been muzzled, my staffy is soft, but I know my responsibilities, its not the dogs but the owners who should be punished (although sometimes its not always the dog fault for attacking either, if someone were to break into my house and get bitten then Im sorry but they will have to deal with the consequences of meeting my staffy whilst I am not there ! and before all alsation and collie owners comment that their dog is not vicious this is not what I am implying, just commenting in my history this is my findings just like I dare say some others will say the same for staffies, labradors, poodles etc.

Well said Trixie! I also own a Staffie and my family have owned numerous dogs (including Alsations) in the past, but no animal should ever be totally trusted, not even cats.

As for Staffies being vicious or dangerous, it's the owners that need locking up for not keeping them under control.

I believe the dangerous dogs act covers any type of dog not being kept under proper control, not just those banned e.g. Pit Bull Terriers etc.

Staffies can be incredibly docile dogs and were bred to be extremely docile to humans so that owners could safely approach them at any stage during a fight.

As a result, the staffie is a lovely, adoring family pet... but they can find eye contact with other dogs a trigger for aggressive behaviour. Children they don't know, if on a similar eye level, may trigger them too when unsupervised.

All dogs can attack a child. The staffie has the misfortunate of being incredibly powerful. They can do more damage than most other breeds if they attack, so if they suddenly lash out and latch onto a child, you have a very serious situation indeed.

Good owners will understand their pets unique needs well and act accordingly with them, which makes a big difference with safety.

exYorkist wrote:

i am the stig wrote: All of the talk about dangerous dogs, and I'm still amazed the police and court seem to have zero or little interest in finding the dog that bit the little girl from the polish man story?

Because nobody cares about foreigners. One of the most embarrassing things about the UK was how the Polish migrant community was treated not only in York but all over the UK. One of my grans was Polish and this sounds exactly like something she'd have done: detain the rotters until the police arrived. The Polish man ought to be the one getting 200 quid, not those kids. He ought to be given a medal and a pat on the back.

Are you real? The foreign contingent of York are treated equally if not better than the locals. This has nothing to do with the dog. The reasonn he got arrested was because he slapped a minor, and looked like he was dragging another into his van. What would you do if it was one of your kids he had slapped. Yes I feel sorry for the girl, but he should not put his hands on children.

the girl was proberly winding the dog up. i had a staffie for 10 years and it did no harm to my kids. there brilliantg dogs

cutemloosebruce wrote:

exYorkist wrote:

i am the stig wrote: All of the talk about dangerous dogs, and I'm still amazed the police and court seem to have zero or little interest in finding the dog that bit the little girl from the polish man story?

Because nobody cares about foreigners. One of the most embarrassing things about the UK was how the Polish migrant community was treated not only in York but all over the UK. One of my grans was Polish and this sounds exactly like something she'd have done: detain the rotters until the police arrived. The Polish man ought to be the one getting 200 quid, not those kids. He ought to be given a medal and a pat on the back.

Are you real? The foreign contingent of York are treated equally if not better than the locals. This has nothing to do with the dog. The reasonn he got arrested was because he slapped a minor, and looked like he was dragging another into his van. What would you do if it was one of your kids he had slapped. Yes I feel sorry for the girl, but he should not put his hands on children.

Yes, I am real. You're mad if you think foreigners are treated well in York. They're not; they're treated embarrassingly poorly.

When I was growing up someone like Zbigniew Kusowski would have been treated like a hero, or at least wouldn't have been arrested. Kids nowadays are too soft and spoiled and their parents are just as rotten as they are. At least here in the States you can still discipline your children if they misbehave.

exYorkist wrote:

cutemloosebruce wrote:

exYorkist wrote:

i am the stig wrote: All of the talk about dangerous dogs, and I'm still amazed the police and court seem to have zero or little interest in finding the dog that bit the little girl from the polish man story?

Because nobody cares about foreigners. One of the most embarrassing things about the UK was how the Polish migrant community was treated not only in York but all over the UK. One of my grans was Polish and this sounds exactly like something she'd have done: detain the rotters until the police arrived. The Polish man ought to be the one getting 200 quid, not those kids. He ought to be given a medal and a pat on the back.

Are you real? The foreign contingent of York are treated equally if not better than the locals. This has nothing to do with the dog. The reasonn he got arrested was because he slapped a minor, and looked like he was dragging another into his van. What would you do if it was one of your kids he had slapped. Yes I feel sorry for the girl, but he should not put his hands on children.

Yes, I am real. You're mad if you think foreigners are treated well in York. They're not; they're treated embarrassingly poorly. When I was growing up someone like Zbigniew Kusowski would have been treated like a hero, or at least wouldn't have been arrested. Kids nowadays are too soft and spoiled and their parents are just as rotten as they are. At least here in the States you can still discipline your children if they misbehave.

Yes, but if that was an English man who hit somebody elses kids they would have been punished too. Its got nothing to do with where he is from. If I went to Poland and hit somebody elses child would I get legal aid? Would I chuff. What proof is there that these 2 kids did anything wrong? From what I can gather they were playing at a village green, and accused of being part of a gang. IS there any evidence whatsoever to prove they were in the wrong?

As for the states, you may be still able to discipline your children, BUT LOOK AT THE STATE YOUR COUNTRY IS IN!!!! Wasnt there another tragic school shooting in lawless America just the other day?

A Great Dane (off its lead) attacked our dog (on his lead) and injured my wife last year. Police were appalled at severity of our dog's injuries that they prosecuted the owners. Northallerton Magistrates let them off, ignoring fact it had attacked 2 people previously. Courts blow hot & cold on dangerous dogs, it's pathetic.