bobby dazzler wrote:
Lets be honest...All churches have nuts going into them. I do like the v for vendeture masks tho. wore one on halloween once. 3Quid for fantesey world. Ledge. Other then that lets blow all churches up!

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

Elizabeth wrote:

bobby dazzler wrote: Lets be honest...All churches have nuts going into them. I do like the v for vendeture masks tho. wore one on halloween once. 3Quid for fantesey world. Ledge. Other then that lets blow all churches up!

Plenty of non-religious nuts about too. Not all religious people are crazy. Just because they believe something you may not believe or understand you self.

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

Miss Amelia Rate wrote:
Is the Church of Scientology different to the Christian Scientist then, 'cos there is one of them at the end of Kilburn Road?

bobby dazzler wrote:

Elizabeth wrote:

bobby dazzler wrote: Lets be honest...All churches have nuts going into them. I do like the v for vendeture masks tho. wore one on halloween once. 3Quid for fantesey world. Ledge. Other then that lets blow all churches up!

Plenty of non-religious nuts about too. Not all religious people are crazy. Just because they believe something you may not believe or understand you self.

I can understand the back grounds of them. But being a realist i can't grasp the concept of walking on water etc. You are right there is a lot of non religious nuts too. They are prob more dangerous then religious people. But to create a church of scientology is a bit strange? i wonder how many people will turn up?

Elle wrote:

bobby dazzler wrote:

Elizabeth wrote:

bobby dazzler wrote: Lets be honest...All churches have nuts going into them. I do like the v for vendeture masks tho. wore one on halloween once. 3Quid for fantesey world. Ledge. Other then that lets blow all churches up!

Plenty of non-religious nuts about too. Not all religious people are crazy. Just because they believe something you may not believe or understand you self.

I can understand the back grounds of them. But being a realist i can't grasp the concept of walking on water etc. You are right there is a lot of non religious nuts too. They are prob more dangerous then religious people. But to create a church of scientology is a bit strange? i wonder how many people will turn up?

Any belief system requires an element of faith - stepping outside of what is here in the physical world. This is the spiritual world. Not understanding something shouldn't be a reason to slander or libel or dis-regard outright. Eveyone accepts that human beings are body, soul (personality) and spirit. It makes sense to find out about the one true spirit - try an ordinary church, not a wierd one though LOL!!

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

HOBBIT wrote:
Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

HOBBIT wrote:
Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

Elizabeth wrote:
"I have trust me. I don't have anything against them. With what i wrote earlier it might sound like it. What i don't agree with though is the people preaching in the middle of town etc. Some of them strike me as strange? Agreed the majority of them are fine and actually loving and caring people. But scientology sounds a bit far fetched etc. I do understant the means of religions etc but simply have different beliefs of how stuff started etc." If you mena the origins of the universe then you will find a lot of Christians believe in the big bang and regard the God created the world in 7 days and Adam and Eve stories as just that...stories.

Miss Amelia Rate wrote:
Is the Church of Scientology different to the Christian Scientist then, 'cos there is one of them at the end of Kilburn Road?

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:
It's just another weird religion.

The protesters would stand better chance of action if they claimed it was the church of 'Foie Gras'. The council would be up in arms then.

bobby dazzler wrote:

Elizabeth wrote: "I have trust me. I don't have anything against them. With what i wrote earlier it might sound like it. What i don't agree with though is the people preaching in the middle of town etc. Some of them strike me as strange? Agreed the majority of them are fine and actually loving and caring people. But scientology sounds a bit far fetched etc. I do understant the means of religions etc but simply have different beliefs of how stuff started etc." If you mena the origins of the universe then you will find a lot of Christians believe in the big bang and regard the God created the world in 7 days and Adam and Eve stories as just that...stories.

But then if the religion doesn't have a starting point how can it be valid? You surley cant beleive in parts of a story? I get that it is just about the belief to do right instead of wrong but if you dont believe the foundations and basis of your religion then how can you fully pledge yourself to it?

Elle wrote:

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

that's a very simplistic view of the whole world,it takes the responsibilty away from an individuals actions. I don't agree with scientology but why protest? Understanding and caring attitudes will make a difference in the world today, not causing more upset. The masked people are too scared to truely stand up for what they believe (they probably have no beliefs) they are just out to stir up trouble, that's how disputes, controversy and wars start.

bobby dazzler wrote:
Well yes but i was under the impression that it started with adam and eve? Not with a big bang? So if you beleived in christianity why would you only beleive part of it? look anyway there are some weird religious people out there tht can not be denied.(not saying they all are) but scientology is just going to add more!

HOBBIT wrote:
Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

Elizabeth wrote:
"I have trust me. I don't have anything against them. With what i wrote
earlier it might sound like it. What i don't agree with though is the
people preaching in the middle of town etc. Some of them strike me as
strange? Agreed the majority of them are fine and actually loving and
caring people. But scientology sounds a bit far fetched etc. I do
understant the means of religions etc but simply have different beliefs
of how stuff started etc."
If you mena the origins of the universe then you will find a lot of
Christians believe in the big bang and regard the God created the world
in 7 days and Adam and Eve stories as just that...stories.

GlassCaseOfEmotion wrote:

HOBBIT wrote: Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

You may want to do a little reading before making such statements. I suggest starting with a google 'Xenu TV'. Scientology is a cult, NOT a religion. Please inform yourself before posting such asinine rubbish in future.

Elizabeth wrote:
"I have trust me. I don't have anything against them. With what i wrote
earlier it might sound like it. What i don't agree with though is the
people preaching in the middle of town etc. Some of them strike me as
strange? Agreed the majority of them are fine and actually loving and
caring people. But scientology sounds a bit far fetched etc. I do
understant the means of religions etc but simply have different beliefs
of how stuff started etc."
If you mena the origins of the universe then you will find a lot of
Christians believe in the big bang and regard the God created the world
in 7 days and Adam and Eve stories as just that...stories.

Elizabeth wrote:

bobby dazzler wrote: Well yes but i was under the impression that it started with adam and eve? Not with a big bang? So if you beleived in christianity why would you only beleive part of it? look anyway there are some weird religious people out there tht can not be denied.(not saying they all are) but scientology is just going to add more!

Again...Christianity did not start with Adam and Eve. It started with Jesus. The story of Adam and Eve is in the Old testament written thousands of years ago and before Jesus' birth. There was no understanding of the big bang theory at the time and it is just a story which is used to explain that God created the universe. Christians who don't believe the 7 days story as fact still believe that God created us and the universe via the big bang.

Reg wrote:

Elizabeth wrote: "I have trust me. I don't have anything against them. With what i wrote earlier it might sound like it. What i don't agree with though is the people preaching in the middle of town etc. Some of them strike me as strange? Agreed the majority of them are fine and actually loving and caring people. But scientology sounds a bit far fetched etc. I do understant the means of religions etc but simply have different beliefs of how stuff started etc." If you mena the origins of the universe then you will find a lot of Christians believe in the big bang and regard the God created the world in 7 days and Adam and Eve stories as just that...stories.

"Just stories". And the virgin birth? Jesus coming back from the dead? You can't pick & choose. If you dismiss all the implausible stuff, then you are forced to admit that Jesus was just some charismatic bloke, who wasn't the son of God at all. It seems that as biblical tales are debunked one by one by scientific proof, the religious groups either come up with ever-more bizarre ways to claim that they are true after all, or say that those selected stories are "symbolic" and should not be taken literally. The problem is that the world's major religions are fundamentally BUILT on intolerance of other faiths and races - something that both the bible and koran make absolutely clear.

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

kaka morris wrote:
olease could somebody tell me what the basis is of their religion and a couple of "rules".. I dare not log on to their website in case they infiltrate me..

misskittie wrote:
Noone has an issue with the belief system as it is no more insane than any other religion with the notable exception of being written by a C-list Sci-Fi fiction author. Draw your own conclusions from that! Anonymous have a problem with the fact that your first session costs £550 and subsequent sessions to get to the top of the tree costs around £350,000 - £500,000. If you want to be a Christian, you can. For free. With no hassle if you change your mind. With Scientology, they suck all your savings out of your account, ask you to remortgage your house, then sit outside your house & call your boss telling them you are a religious bigot if you try and leave. Not very nice people! www.xenu.net for all your information needs!

ennoch wrote:
Lol entertaining comments for once, cheers. It would seem over the last few weeks Protesters = Free Publicity. If the protesters could spare a thought for the people of Tibet then real life changing publicity may follow? If i were them i'd maybe go for the peaceful orange robes look next time?

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote: Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

If you think scientology doesn't hurt anyone they you should read more about it. Look up disconnection, where scientology breaks families. RPF, internment for people who try to leave the religion. fair game, harrassment of critics of scientology. Anonymous has nothing against the beliefs of scientology. Our problem is with the organisation designed to take it's parishoners for every penny they have. If you want to belive in the whole scientology story etc. Join freezone, it's free

GlassCaseOfEmotion wrote:

HOBBIT wrote: Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

You may want to do a little reading before making such statements. I suggest starting with a google 'Xenu TV'. Scientology is a cult, NOT a religion. Please inform yourself before posting such asinine rubbish in future.

ll wrote:

Voice of reason wrote: Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

Agree

AdmiralN wrote:
Lets be reasonable, Scientology is probably just as 'legitimate' as any other religion out there. im not a religious man and sometimes struggle with the concept of 'Faith' but why should scientologists be classed any different than christians, muslims, jews etc.

Cyber-Dyne systems model 101 wrote:
Scientology sucks, all religon sucks. It was and to an extent still is a way to extract money from the masses and control them through fear of devine retribution. It requires no proof no threat, you simply have to convince people to believe. Come judgement day, when the machines finally rise up against us, it will be long overdue!

fyi wrote:

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote: It's just another weird religion. The protesters would stand better chance of action if they claimed it was the church of 'Foie Gras'. The council would be up in arms then.

Its not even a religion. It is an organisation that thinks it is above the law, using brainwashing techniques to squeeze more money out of people and also make them afraid to leave (hence Anonymous calls it a cult.) Try google if you want to learn more, there is a Lot more to this cult than weirdness, although it does have that in spades.

Gardener wrote:
Freedom of speech, freedom of belief, we can all think for ourselves. The protesters on the other hand scared to be identified, how can you fear legal action against a peaceful protest on public ground unless you're planning unlawful behaviour?

Posted by: Cyber-Dyne systems model 101, The future on 3:36pm today

HOBBIT wrote:

Gardener wrote: Freedom of speech, freedom of belief, we can all think for ourselves. The protesters on the other hand scared to be identified, how can you fear legal action against a peaceful protest on public ground unless you're planning unlawful behaviour?

They needed to be masked cause they know there in the wrong for protesting it in the first place... bigoted idiots

HOBBIT wrote:

misskittie wrote: Noone has an issue with the belief system as it is no more insane than any other religion with the notable exception of being written by a C-list Sci-Fi fiction author. Draw your own conclusions from that! Anonymous have a problem with the fact that your first session costs £550 and subsequent sessions to get to the top of the tree costs around £350,000 - £500,000. If you want to be a Christian, you can. For free. With no hassle if you change your mind. With Scientology, they suck all your savings out of your account, ask you to remortgage your house, then sit outside your house & call your boss telling them you are a religious bigot if you try and leave. Not very nice people! www.xenu.net for all your information needs!

And if people are willing to do that more fool them, but picketing the religion.... why bother??

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

Gardener wrote: Freedom of speech, freedom of belief, we can all think for ourselves. The protesters on the other hand scared to be identified, how can you fear legal action against a peaceful protest on public ground unless you're planning unlawful behaviour?

They needed to be masked cause they know there in the wrong for protesting it in the first place... bigoted idiots

i would insult you, but in all fairness it's not your dault you're ignorant. Anon wear masks, because the scientologists operate a policy know as fair game, where they defame, sue, harrass incriminate and in some cases KILL critics of scientology. So before you go about calling the protestors cowards for wearing masks, ask yourself whether you'd like to be on the recieveing end of any of these tactics

el_ron wrote:
Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Elizabeth wrote:
"Jesus is not the foundation of Christianity he is merely the propulsion of the idea." Christians believe in Jesus as their lord. Christians did not exist before Jesus' time.

Fly-On-The-Wall wrote:
Any man that wears a long dress, talks to someone that isn't there and spreads silly rumours that water can be walked on has to be a bit dodgey. We all hear this rubbish but most cannot distinguish between fact and fiction. Then what happens? These people start to preach that it's true! It's the biggest 'Chinese Whisper' story in the world!

MarkHintNorth wrote:

Elizabeth wrote: "Jesus is not the foundation of Christianity he is merely the propulsion of the idea." Christians believe in Jesus as their lord. Christians did not exist before Jesus' time.

What? There's a clue in the full title normall given to Jesus -the "Christ" (i.e. annointed one). The word Christian is derived from it - followers of Christ. Quick question: would anyone like to tell us why its (still) called the "Theory of Evolution"? Possibly since its not accepted even by all scientific types as fact, perhaps? (And before anyone kicks off on that, I think its a pretty good theory, as these things go.)

Gardener wrote:

Fly-On-The-Wall wrote: Any man that wears a long dress, talks to someone that isn't there and spreads silly rumours that water can be walked on has to be a bit dodgey. We all hear this rubbish but most cannot distinguish between fact and fiction. Then what happens? These people start to preach that it's true! It's the biggest 'Chinese Whisper' story in the world!

technically walking on water is possible, and a lot of the other divine acts are explainable by modern science, blind belief and faith on the other hand....

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:

Gardener wrote:

Fly-On-The-Wall wrote: Any man that wears a long dress, talks to someone that isn't there and spreads silly rumours that water can be walked on has to be a bit dodgey. We all hear this rubbish but most cannot distinguish between fact and fiction. Then what happens? These people start to preach that it's true! It's the biggest 'Chinese Whisper' story in the world!

technically walking on water is possible, and a lot of the other divine acts are explainable by modern science, blind belief and faith on the other hand....

Criss Angel can walk on water.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=sBQLq2VmZ
cA

So what does that make Criss even if he is a 'dark' magician?

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You dont need to, thanks though, iv read a lot about Scientology, and whilst I agree they do take fees from their followers that dosent make them any worse then the COE, who ask for donations rather than subscriptions.... as for breaking up familys, they only do in so much as the COE do by say outcasting homosexuality, therefore familys have been known to be broken when parents disown children because of it, etc... if your gonna protest about Scientology the principles your protesting against can be applied to any religion going, sorry but you wont change my mind

Fly-On-The-Wall wrote:

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You do an awful lot of research for someone who claims to be an Atheist. You must have an awful lot of time on your hands? Incidentally, don't believe everything you find on Wikipedia.

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You dont need to, thanks though, iv read a lot about Scientology, and whilst I agree they do take fees from their followers that dosent make them any worse then the COE, who ask for donations rather than subscriptions.... as for breaking up familys, they only do in so much as the COE do by say outcasting homosexuality, therefore familys have been known to be broken when parents disown children because of it, etc... if your gonna protest about Scientology the principles your protesting against can be applied to any religion going, sorry but you wont change my mind

If you read the lisa mcpherson article you'd find that she's dead because of scientology, not just out of pocket. But i'm sure that's fine with you. How about the people imprisoned by the RPF is that alright with you? How about the disconnected families? still sit well with you??

Those who toil and live in want all their lives are taught by religion to be submissive and patient while here on earth, and to take comfort in the hope of a heavenly reward. But those who live by the labour of others are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven.

Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man.

Vladimir Illich Ulyanov

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You dont need to, thanks though, iv read a lot about Scientology, and whilst I agree they do take fees from their followers that dosent make them any worse then the COE, who ask for donations rather than subscriptions.... as for breaking up familys, they only do in so much as the COE do by say outcasting homosexuality, therefore familys have been known to be broken when parents disown children because of it, etc... if your gonna protest about Scientology the principles your protesting against can be applied to any religion going, sorry but you wont change my mind

If you read the lisa mcpherson article you'd find that she's dead because of scientology, not just out of pocket. But i'm sure that's fine with you. How about the people imprisoned by the RPF is that alright with you? How about the disconnected families? still sit well with you??

Dead because of Scientology??? Yeah Iv just said, nothing they do is better or worse than any other religion so far as Im concerned... each to their own though, all im saying is if people want to believe in somethign who the h*ll are you to tell them they cant??

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You dont need to, thanks though, iv read a lot about Scientology, and whilst I agree they do take fees from their followers that dosent make them any worse then the COE, who ask for donations rather than subscriptions.... as for breaking up familys, they only do in so much as the COE do by say outcasting homosexuality, therefore familys have been known to be broken when parents disown children because of it, etc... if your gonna protest about Scientology the principles your protesting against can be applied to any religion going, sorry but you wont change my mind

If you read the lisa mcpherson article you'd find that she's dead because of scientology, not just out of pocket. But i'm sure that's fine with you. How about the people imprisoned by the RPF is that alright with you? How about the disconnected families? still sit well with you??

Dead because of Scientology??? Yeah Iv just said, nothing they do is better or worse than any other religion so far as Im concerned... each to their own though, all im saying is if people want to believe in somethign who the h*ll are you to tell them they cant??

Yes dead because of scientology. she was clinically depressed, and instead of letting her go to a psychaitrist the COS locked her in a room for 14 days, during which time she died from dehydration, having been unconsious for a full 48 hours before her death, during which time the church did nothing.

HOBBIT wrote:

GlassCaseOfEmotion wrote:

HOBBIT wrote: Everyone is entitled to believe what ever they like, so long of course that it dosent har other, which I dont believe Scientologists do, sure the theory behind it may be far fetched, but so is a bloke feeding thousands of people with just 2 loaves and a bit of fish!!

You may want to do a little reading before making such statements. I suggest starting with a google 'Xenu TV'. Scientology is a cult, NOT a religion. Please inform yourself before posting such asinine rubbish in future.

Please, Cult?? Its actually formally recognised as a religion, so bite me!!

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote:

HOBBIT wrote:

el_ron wrote: Also before you all go mock sceintology's beliefs or call anonymous biggots. Understand that anonymous is not against the beliefs of the COS. we're against the actions of the organisation. We're against the families separated by the church. We're aaginst the lives ruined by the church's views on psyciatry, and the many deaths this has caused. We're against the way the organisation tries to take every penny of their parrishioner's money in exchange for "salvation". We're against the torture of scientology's mebers in the Sea org. We're against the forced abortions that scientology forces its female sea org members to recieve. We're against the heavy handed approach scientology takes with it's critics. We're against the fact that scientology recieves tax free status. Anyone want any more reasons why we protest??

Yeah, what religion are you again??

I'm an atheist. As for my views, don't take it from me. do your own research If you can read the facts about the Church of scientology and not be shocked by what goes on (remember we're talking the organisation here, not the beliefs) then there's something wrong. Here i'll start you off http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fair_Game_% 28Scientology%29 http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sea_Org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rehabilitat ion_Project_Force http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Lisa_McPher son

You dont need to, thanks though, iv read a lot about Scientology, and whilst I agree they do take fees from their followers that dosent make them any worse then the COE, who ask for donations rather than subscriptions.... as for breaking up familys, they only do in so much as the COE do by say outcasting homosexuality, therefore familys have been known to be broken when parents disown children because of it, etc... if your gonna protest about Scientology the principles your protesting against can be applied to any religion going, sorry but you wont change my mind

If you read the lisa mcpherson article you'd find that she's dead because of scientology, not just out of pocket. But i'm sure that's fine with you. How about the people imprisoned by the RPF is that alright with you? How about the disconnected families? still sit well with you??

Dead because of Scientology??? Yeah Iv just said, nothing they do is better or worse than any other religion so far as Im concerned... each to their own though, all im saying is if people want to believe in somethign who the h*ll are you to tell them they cant??

Yes dead because of scientology. she was clinically depressed, and instead of letting her go to a psychaitrist the COS locked her in a room for 14 days, during which time she died from dehydration, having been unconsious for a full 48 hours before her death, during which time the church did nothing.

Which is all unproven heresay, but well done

el_ron wrote:
i've already said that we're not telling people what to believe. Understand that scientology and the church of scientology are 2 seperate entities. Scientology is the beliefs, basically dianetics, the space opera, whatever else. We have no problem with this, we fully support freezone, a group of people who follw these beleifs without hurting anyone. The church of scientology on the toher hand is the all encompassing organisation that sells scientology books, runs the sea org, harrasses critics, charges members for the beliefs of scientology, separates families, the list goes on. We have no problem with the beliefs, we have a problem with the coprorate entity that is the Church of scientology

AdmiralN wrote:

el_ron wrote: i've already said that we're not telling people what to believe. Understand that scientology and the church of scientology are 2 seperate entities. Scientology is the beliefs, basically dianetics, the space opera, whatever else. We have no problem with this, we fully support freezone, a group of people who follw these beleifs without hurting anyone. The church of scientology on the toher hand is the all encompassing organisation that sells scientology books, runs the sea org, harrasses critics, charges members for the beliefs of scientology, separates families, the list goes on. We have no problem with the beliefs, we have a problem with the coprorate entity that is the Church of scientology

So are you a formally scientologist atheist?

Chris P wrote:
One thing worse than scientologists is morons who dont know how to use comment boards on the website and quote endless quoted quotes that take up metres of space.

HOBBIT wrote:
Ok El_ron, let me point out again, which has to be for the 3rd time today,I AM NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST, I just think your needlessly discriminating against a group of people for an unjust cause, Im actually tempted to join em though, just to bump up numbers and p*ss you off.... My friend has hair like Tom Cruise, she's a girl though

HOBBIT wrote:
Ps, Im off home now but I ride past that place on Hull Road, I might pop in

AdmiralN wrote:
Ok, so scientologists wouldnt let this girl see a phsychiatrist, Catholics wont let women have abortions, Muslim women cannot choose their husbands... In my eyes these are all wrong, but why pick only on scientology el_ron?

HOBBIT wrote:
Ps, Im off home now but I ride past that place on Hull Road, I might pop in

misskittie wrote:

HOBBIT wrote: Ps, Im off home now but I ride past that place on Hull Road, I might pop in

Seriously, don't be so stupid. If you are that daft, then don't hand over any personal info because El-Ron will not be hacked off but you'll have these nutters in your garden, tapping the windows, outside your office etc!! And Tom Cruise is a big girl so your friend has good hair!

Voice of reason wrote:
Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

Elizabeth wrote:
"And religion is based on the fundamental belief of a God/s The christians who say they do not believe in god and that the stories should be interpritted are not 'real' christians as it denies the true belief of God as a whole. This includes items such as the new testament AND the old testament. After all denying that god created the world in seven days is denying the feat of God in one of his most important roles, the creator." But there is scientific evidence to suggest that the world was not created in 7 days. Evolution clearly took place. When the OT was written there was no understanding of this. The OT account of the creation of the world is a story to explain that God created it. Many Christians believe God did create the world and the iniverse but through the big bang and evolution. So therefore they are not denying him as the creator.

Allsorts wrote:

Voice of reason wrote: Hmm, religion - Isn't that what's started every war in the world?

Yep, started and kept the momentum going in any war that I can think of!

Plaggy Terry wrote:
Hobbit was wrong,most of you others were right I suspect you were all daft for falling for her goading its perfectly clear to me she came on this posting today to try and wind you all up alas it worked she got a response. Best way to get a response out of a monkey is to throw peanuts at it.her bein the monkey not the organ grinder. case closed you are all dismissed.

AdmiralN wrote:

Posted by: Cyber-Dyne systems model 101, The future on 3:36pm today

What happened to the other place?

Ghost in the machine wrote:

AdmiralN wrote:

Posted by: Cyber-Dyne systems model 101, The future on 3:36pm today

What happened to the other place?

Its still there, ticking over as normal. Wondered where you'd gone???

Chris P wrote:
I suspect the board designers thought people may be smart enough not avoid quoting multiple quotes. Once again the people of yorkshire are overestimated!!

Chris P wrote:
I suspect the board designers thought people may be smart enough not avoid quoting multiple quotes. Once again the people of yorkshire are overestimated!!

Being a softwarde developer, i think you're wrong. the reason the board designers let this happen is because they were lazy and wanted to get back to their hookers and blow

Voice of reason wrote:

Being a softwarde developer, i think you're wrong. the reason the board designers let this happen is because they were lazy and wanted to get back to their hookers and blow

Quoting the last post (and not every other one associated with it) is not exactly rocket-science. Oooh look, i've managed it all by myself! Just highlight the last one, don't just click on "Quote". Bingo!

ex-con wrote:
none of you lot no nowt about nothng. i run the church in question, its up to the individual to make up there own mind, what would you lots say if i protested out side a church of england