after rejecting a 2.45 per cent pay increase

Not surprised. When the people who run the council give themselves an 11% pay rise, what do you expect?

Many council workers earn poverty wages and then you have a Chief Exec who earns £145,000 and for what? He doesn't have to bring in business, he (and his cronies) get given money by the Champagne Socialists in Westminster.

Don't build Hungate, look at existing out-of-town alternatives and use some of the save cash to fund inline with inflation pay-rises so your workers can afford to eat.

Rob Marley wrote:

after rejecting a 2.45 per cent pay increase

Not surprised. When the people who run the council give themselves an 11% pay rise, what do you expect?

Many council workers earn poverty wages and then you have a Chief Exec who earns £145,000 and for what? He doesn't have to bring in business, he (and his cronies) get given money by the Champagne Socialists in Westminster.

Don't build Hungate, look at existing out-of-town alternatives and use some of the save cash to fund inline with inflation pay-rises so your workers can afford to eat.

Can we stop this out of perspective nonsense. The "11%" you refer to was a wopping increase from £6500 a year to £7000 a year. That is more like the 'poverty wages' you refer to.

How exactly is your out of town Hungate plan a) cheaper and b) impoacting on traffic congestion/carbon footprint. Council services need to be in the city, easily accesible by all by simple public transport links.

Why do people forget Hungate belongs to them. the council is not building a big hotel for council workers to relax in. it is a capital assett belonging to the people of York providing a service for the people of York.

voiceoreason wrote:

Rob Marley wrote:

after rejecting a 2.45 per cent pay increase

Not surprised. When the people who run the council give themselves an 11% pay rise, what do you expect? Many council workers earn poverty wages and then you have a Chief Exec who earns £145,000 and for what? He doesn't have to bring in business, he (and his cronies) get given money by the Champagne Socialists in Westminster. Don't build Hungate, look at existing out-of-town alternatives and use some of the save cash to fund inline with inflation pay-rises so your workers can afford to eat.

Can we stop this out of perspective nonsense. The "11%" you refer to was a wopping increase from £6500 a year to £7000 a year. That is more like the 'poverty wages' you refer to. How exactly is your out of town Hungate plan a) cheaper and b) impoacting on traffic congestion/carbon footprint. Council services need to be in the city, easily accesible by all by simple public transport links. Why do people forget Hungate belongs to them. the council is not building a big hotel for council workers to relax in. it is a capital assett belonging to the people of York providing a service for the people of York.

No, I won't stop going on about it. You know as well as I do that not every councillor gets 7k. The council is cash-strapped and councillors should lead from the front.

I'm not exactly happy when they waste time debating such things as Foie Gras.

a) Cheaper - £40 million and the rest. They've alreaded admitted to 3.5 million more. There are existing buildings for example -Terrys, parts of Rowntrees to name but two which have existing infrastruture and plenty of car parking. All you'd need would be a simple free bus service from the centre of town.

b) So you are telling me that logistically placing thousands of people into a Hungate building in the city centre isn't going to be a burden on the roads and isn't going to increase traffic in an area which already suffers at certain times of the day? If you place council services at Rowntrees or Terrys they are still in the city, on bus routes, creating less logistic problems.

Why do people forget Hungate belongs to them.

One name - The Barbican. Yet another council led mess led by masters of egregious failure. Hungate has the potential.

There are a growing number of us who are increasingly unhappy with the ways and nefarious purposes of the council and its members.

The council finance department produces forecasts and budgets based on projected supply of money from the government and return on council tax. Take one of those out and you will not find anything being built down Hungate.

The clock is ticking.

Forget the level of councillors' allowances or the cost of Hungate.

The fact is that council workers are being offered less than 2.5% when the cost of living is rising much faster than that. Official inflation is high, but we all know that the basic foodstuffs and energy prices are rising faster still. Such rises have a more severe impact on the low-paid than on the rich.

It's dishonest and dishonourable of the government to attempt to slash at workers' pay like this when they still refuse to increase taxes on the super-rich a little bit to help fubd public services.

There is no way i can afford to strike, i like the rest of my colleagues have been balloted for industrial action,we lost upwards of £60 earlier this year, meaning i get £6.01 per hour for 37 hours work,after tax, national insurance,pension and union subs i am left with a take home pay of £131, how can i afford to lose a day or twos pay when i dont get a great deal as it is?

sweeperupper wrote:
There is no way i can afford to strike, i like the rest of my colleagues have been balloted for industrial action,we lost upwards of £60 earlier this year, meaning i get £6.01 per hour for 37 hours work,after tax, national insurance,pension and union subs i am left with a take home pay of £131, how can i afford to lose a day or twos pay when i dont get a great deal as it is?

Book a week of work during the first three weeks of July and hope for the best - this is when the strike is most likely to be called, and as long as your leave has been booked prior to the dates of action being announced, the council have no choice but to honour it and pay you!

sweeperupper wrote:
There is no way i can afford to strike, i like the rest of my colleagues have been balloted for industrial action,we lost upwards of £60 earlier this year, meaning i get £6.01 per hour for 37 hours work,after tax, national insurance,pension and union subs i am left with a take home pay of £131, how can i afford to lose a day or twos pay when i dont get a great deal as it is?

I totally agree with you sweeperupper - the council currently pay me £6.57 an hour for driving a 26 tonne wagon down the narrow & congested York streets - when are Useless - sorry Unison - going to get off their ar*es and get the pay and grading issue sorted out and get my hourly rate back to what is should be. What's the point of striking when the union has already agreed to include the 2.5% in our re-grading structure. I for one won't be striking - are Unison going to pay my bills and mortgage for me when I lose pay - I don't think so.

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sweeperupper wrote: There is no way i can afford to strike, i like the rest of my colleagues have been balloted for industrial action,we lost upwards of £60 earlier this year, meaning i get £6.01 per hour for 37 hours work,after tax, national insurance,pension and union subs i am left with a take home pay of £131, how can i afford to lose a day or twos pay when i dont get a great deal as it is?

Book a week of work during the first three weeks of July and hope for the best - this is when the strike is most likely to be called, and as long as your leave has been booked prior to the dates of action being announced, the council have no choice but to honour it and pay you!

That's assuming they have enough staff to cover your leave - I've lost count of the number of times I've been declined a holiday request because 'there are already too many drivers off'.

There are a growing number of us who are increasingly unhappy with the ways and nefarious purposes of the council and its members.

Not enough I fear, as people keep voting these clowns in.